|Tommy Vance Interview, 1981
This interview features Dave Brock and Harvey Bainbridge talking to Tommy Vance on the Friday
Rock Show on 24th October 1981
DJ Tommy Vance introduces the interview by playing â€œLiving On A Knife Edgeâ€�. Joining him in
the studio are Dave Brock and Harvey Bainbridge.
TV: The most constant thing about Hawkwind is the ever-flowing, ever-changing membership of the band
but one constant thing is Dave Brock. Itâ€™s also quite amazing that the sound still remains the same.
DB: Yes, well it did veer off actually in 1976, you must admit (laughs), but itâ€™s come back again now
soâ€¦it canâ€™t be bad
TV: The fans donâ€™t leave either, do they Harvey?
HB: No, they seem to get more and more so, they seem to get younger and younger as well, of courseâ€¦
DB: You see, itâ€™s their parentsâ€¦I mean we convert their parents and they convert their kids, and thatâ
€™s the way it goes
HB: What it is, I think they come and they enjoy being excitedâ€¦
DB: I mean, weâ€™ve got a really good light show now. Weâ€™ve sort of been hustling this for a long
time and this year itâ€™s back to what we really wanted it to be and next year itâ€™s going to be even
betterâ€¦but this time weâ€™ve got a really good liquid light show with lots of things happening. I mean,
they know they can come and see a really good show when they come and see us. Thatâ€™s what its all
TV: In the end, thatâ€™s got to be it. But then, you always had a pretty good light show and you had
what was it, Liquid Len at one timeâ€¦
TV: I mean` you were famous in â€™69 when you started in Notting Hill Gate â€“ you were famous for
having psychedelic images all over the wall
DB: And itâ€™ll all happen again
TV: But itâ€™s happened so many times and youâ€™ve been there and back, and there and back - and
when you actually start looking at the number of times that your previous record companies have re-
released your albumsâ€¦I think one of them has been re-released three times by UAâ€¦
DB: Yeah, I bet they do it again
TV: *I* bet they do it again! Are there any record companies left that you could go to? I mean, youâ
€™re on RCA at the momentâ€¦
DB: You mean, who would have us? (laughs) Well weâ€™re signed to Active actually, which is Kingsley
TV: Which is Rockfield?
DB: Rockfield, yeah
TV: Let me talk to you about Michael Moorcock, this science fiction writer who is pretty constant as far
as your creative output is concerned. What sort of fellow is he?
HB: Heâ€™s quietly witty I would say, he quietly does his things but then all of a sudden he jumps up and
he does something totally out of character from the quiet person that you spoke to 5 minutes before. It
was a lot of fun when we were doing this LP down in Wales. When he arrived he came down to say hello
and we asked him to guest on a track, didnâ€™t we â€“
HB: â€“ asked him to sing Coded Languages on that, and he was all quietly talking away and then he just
goes into the studio and jumps up and down and shrieks and yells and really makes everyone happy. And
down it went on to the tape.
DB: Right. The words of Psychosonia, when you see it printed out, you can make out what itâ€™s all
about. Itâ€™s very, err, thereâ€™s hidden meanings in there
TV: Just to quote Psychosonia, the first two lyric lines are "abu wabuâ€¦abu wabu", Mr. Brock! (laughter)
DB: That might sound silly to you, butâ€¦BUTâ€¦in actual fact if you take the first letter, right, of these
syllables, you see, they all make a word, so each one of those "abu wabu"â€¦
TV: "abu wabu wabu", "abu wabu wabu", and then "mabu dabu mabu dabu"..
DB: And then youâ€™ve got "catu betta"â€¦
HB: "catu betta"?
(Quick sample of Psychosonia is played)
DB: You take the first letter of each of those syllables and it makesâ€¦I forget what the word isâ€¦(laughs)
HB: Itâ€™s the next bit.
TV: Itâ€™s some sort of science fiction anagram, is it?
HB: Itâ€™s a message
TV: One thing youâ€™ve always had a lot of call for, and is evidenced on the inner sheet thatâ€™s with
your album Sonic Attackâ€¦ I mean, youâ€™ve got the Hawkwind magazine, the Hawkline (Hawkwind
lyrics), right, T-shirts, and you also indicateâ€¦you say â€œP.S. Watch out for the Church of Hawkwind
album.â€� Nowâ€¦ youâ€™ve always been *over the top* (laughter) but this is *really* going over the
DB: You mean our new religionâ€¦?! No, itâ€™s an electronic album that we were working on, that weâ
€™ve nearly finished so we decided to put that down.
TV: When you say electronic do you mean totally instrumental?
DB: Um, no, actually, no itâ€™s not.
HB: Weâ€™re using chantsâ€¦in fact thereâ€™s one track which weâ€™ve taken and weâ€™ve put on
there because we reckon it went with the flow of one side.
TV: Which isâ€¦?
HB: Virgin Of The World
TV: Which weâ€™re going to play later on. But at the moment weâ€™re going to play the title track of
the album, which is called Sonic Attackâ€¦
(plays Sonic Attack)
Messrs. Brock and Bainbridge at around the time of
the interview (well OK then, three years later!)